# SPEBlox 1000BASE-T1 master vs slave

**URL:** <https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47>\
**Category:** BotBlox Hardware\
**Tags:** speblox\
**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47 "2023-08-16T15:54:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![botblox\_admin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/botblox_admin/32/1_2.png) [@botblox\_admin](https://forum.botblox.org/u/botblox_admin)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/1 "2023-08-16T15:54:48Z")

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Does the latest SPEBlox device require a jumper for setting master/slave or is this auto negotiated?

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/2 "2023-08-16T15:55:12Z")

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You have to set it manually using the solder jumper on the back.

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**Author:** ![botblox\_admin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/botblox_admin/32/1_2.png) [@botblox\_admin](https://forum.botblox.org/u/botblox_admin)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/3 "2023-08-16T15:55:56Z")

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One more question for you, appreciate the quick response. Could you share the switching frequency of the regulator you use on your board? Just trying to get an idea where any noise may live.

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/4 "2023-08-16T16:10:06Z")

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Below is a list of the frequencies currently existent on the board:

3.3V DCDC Switching Regulator: 400KHz  
1.0V DCDC Switching Regulator: 2.2MHz  
1000BASE-T PHY clock frequency: 25MHz  
1000BASE-T1 PHY clock frequency: 25MHz  
1000BASE-T Ethernet Fundamental Frequency: 125MHz  
1000BASE-T1 Ethernet Fundamental Frequency: 600MHz

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**Author:** ![joseph.wood1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@joseph.wood1](https://forum.botblox.org/u/joseph.wood1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/5 "2024-04-16T13:54:57Z")

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I have two SPEBlox connected to each other and I’m seeing noise at the following frequencies:

Slave: 338.75 kHz (plus 677.5 kHz, 1.016 MHz harmonics)  
Master: 323.75 kHz (plus 647.5 kHz, 971.25 kHz harmonics)

Seems to be coming from L1 on the bottom of the board. Any idea of what may be done to reduce this noise? I’ve tried power with 9V batter and disconnected the 4-pair connections on both ends but still see the noise.

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/6 "2024-04-16T14:19:26Z")

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Where do you see this noise? On the voltage of the power supply, or are you probing the EMC emissions? If you’re probing voltage, what lines are you probing?

The fundamental frequencies on the board are:

Vin to 3.3V DCDC Regulator = 400KHz  
3.3V to 1V regulator = 2.2MHz

Some level of noise is always going to be expected, how much are you seeing in terms of magnitude.

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**Author:** ![joseph.wood1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@joseph.wood1](https://forum.botblox.org/u/joseph.wood1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/7 "2024-04-16T14:31:34Z")

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When probing directly to the input power lines, I go from a -100 dBm noise floor to -30 dBm for 325/338 kHz, and up to -45 dBm from -100 dBm for the 648/677 kHz signals.

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**Author:** ![joseph.wood1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@joseph.wood1](https://forum.botblox.org/u/joseph.wood1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/8 "2024-04-16T14:36:48Z")

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The same noise is seen when probing radiated emissions near the L1 inductors on both SPEBlox’s, with both a lab PS and a 9V battery.

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/9 "2024-04-16T15:18:08Z")

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Any chance you can attach a scope capture here so I can review?

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**Author:** ![joseph.wood1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@joseph.wood1](https://forum.botblox.org/u/joseph.wood1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/10 "2024-04-16T16:03:01Z")

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Hi Josh,

Below you’ll see the image I get when I connect directly to the input power terminals and observe the 0 – 1MHz spectrum:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/botblox1/original/1X/758af269705e03aa433d370ad520a4514869093e.png)

Notice the large peaks at the frequencies I mentioned previously.

When I observe 0 – 1 Ghz connected to input power, I notice the 125 MHz clock, which is of course expected. It’s about 35 dBm (-95 dBm to -60 dBm spike). I don’t yet have access to that image.

Thank you,

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/11 "2024-04-17T03:50:46Z")

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The 125MHz is expected as you say.

The others must be harmonics from the power regulators. I guess my question is, what prompted this investigation? Are you seeing issues in your system?

Incidentally we do have EMC testing planned for SPEBlox later in May which should give some level of pass/fail understanding of this.

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**Author:** ![joseph.wood1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@joseph.wood1](https://forum.botblox.org/u/joseph.wood1)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/12 "2024-04-17T13:55:18Z")

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Hi Josh,

Doing some noise exploration before adding to our system as we recently went through a noise investigation for some other parts of our system.

Looking forward to the May test results!

Thank you,

![~WRD0000.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/botblox1/original/1X/52d5f1c08649212fe6768d2cacdcf8df711810d9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![josh\_elijah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.botblox.org/josh_elijah/32/568_2.png) [@josh\_elijah](https://forum.botblox.org/u/josh_elijah)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.botblox.org/t/speblox-1000base-t1-master-vs-slave/47/13 "2024-04-18T22:43:57Z")

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Sure, I’ll try to remember to post the results here. Failing that, add yourself to our mailing this, we announce test results periodically.
